What happens when you know a relationship is unhealthy — but feel like you have nothing else to hold onto? In this conversation, Michelle and Carrie reflect on toxic relationships shaped by addiction, isolation, and trauma bonds. They talk about recognizing red flags in real time, normalizing chaos, and believing love could somehow fix everything. Through recovery, they’ve learned a hard truth: you can’t change someone else — only yourself. An honest discussion about denial, self-worth, and what