Over the years, people have reported sightings of pink pigeons and doves in America. On Reddit, yasmeengarcia asked, “What kind of bird is this? Looks like a pink pigeon/dove.

In general, ornithologists — scientists who study birds — tend to call smaller members of this family doves and larger members pigeons. But there’s no formal way to distinguish one from another.

The columbidae clan, which includes both collared doves and their city-dwelling cousins, boasts a whopping 310 different bird species, all sporting robust bodies and short necks.